Curse

NeHoMaR · Sep 24, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I set Acolyte Jin (the female ranger hero) to resolve trapper and the only she do is randomly trap whatever she is, not at foot of foes, even equipping she with an axe, and if I equip she with a staff (for energy) she trap very far of the action (same with bow)

And, will be possible in final version change the mask of the ranger hero to W.Survival or B.Mastery or whatever??

Former Ruling · Sep 24, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

The Heros have no A.I right now telling them HOW to use most skills.

You were told this before the event even started. On their website.

They know this. They just haven't made the hero's Intelligent yet. This IS just a preview mind you.

NeHoMaR · Sep 24, 2006, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

The Heros have no A.I right now telling them HOW to use most skills.

You were told this before the event even started. On their website.

They know this. They just haven't made the hero's Intelligent yet. This IS just a preview mind you.

Yeah, I know that, anyway, I don't know why but I think ranger hero won't trap well in retail version

Is this pessimism? maybe.

Vilaptca · Sep 24, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

You have control of the heroes. So this should not be a problem, when you start the battle set the flag right in the middle of the enemies and she will run in.

ak347 · Sep 24, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Why would you even consider making her a trapper? Even without much AI, the heros and henchies are the best interrupters in the game, bar none. Set savage slash and distracting blow on the war hero, savage shot + distracting shot + punishing shot + concussion shot on jin. Its such a ridiculously good combination that most of your enemies wont get a chance to do anything.

NeHoMaR · Sep 24, 2006, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by ak347

Why would you even consider making her a trapper? Even without much AI, the heros and henchies are the best interrupters in the game, bar none. Set savage slash and distracting blow on the war hero, savage shot + distracting shot + punishing shot + concussion shot on jin. Its such a ridiculously good combination that most of your enemies wont get a chance to do anything.

I know

I just wanna some trapping fun. Also, one of the reason I will buy Nightfall is for make my own builds with heroes, including trappers.

AstralizeR · Sep 24, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.

NeHoMaR · Sep 24, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by AstralizeR

I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.

I tested bonder too with the signet, maybe they don't improved yet the ranger because you get she at the end of demo, I hope.

Former Ruling · Sep 24, 2006, 10:10 PM // 22:10

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Originally Posted by AstralizeR

I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.

How did you get a Full Bonder to work?

My Heros wont let themselves go under 0 Energy Regen (They flat out REFUSE to cast a maintained enchantment if they have 0 regen - even if I "check mark" the enchantment to cast).

So Mine cant have more than 4 bonds up >_> A bonder that bonds half the party is lame...

I tryed Friday, so maybe they've improved this feature in one of the updates. Who knows.

Solar_Takfar · Sep 24, 2006, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

My Heros wont let themselves go under 0 Energy Regen (They flat out REFUSE to cast a maintained enchantment if they have 0 regen - even if I "check mark" the enchantment to cast).

try Blood-ritualing the bonder... or getting one of the other heroes to do it, if you don't want to carry BR yourself. No, I haven't tried it. didn't even try to set up a bonder hero, myself.

Mr_T_bot · Sep 24, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by AstralizeR

I've set one of the monks to play bonder and set him to "passive"
he maintained all bonds using blessed sig, which i think is pretty impressive so the AI isn't all that bad

i have no idea why the ranger would randomly trap, maybe its set to defensive for her protection.

I got the other acolyte and turned him into an interrupt/offensive domination mesmer, does a bloody good job.

And if she is randomly setting traps that is because settings traps randomly is default AI. All the mosnters with traps do it. That's why you make sure to equip them with skills you know the game AI can use or you micromanage.

PS. Dankuro is a crappy healing monk but the girl whose name I can't spell who is a protection monk is a great healer monk.

Caelus The Fallen · Sep 24, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

The AI seems to be really bad atm.
Someone suggested setting the Ranger up as an interupter,in fact I did that, hoping for some Erys Vasburg/Daeman action.... nope, she just put up RTW and plinked away. I had to force the use of her interupts which is worse than me doing it myself. Hope this gets fixed, but I can see it being really hard.

Kelsey Cain · Sep 24, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

It is possible to get your Ranger hero to charm a pet. Equip charm animal and use the hero control panel to activate the skill when you have a tameable creature targetted.

Don't know whether it's a bug or not, but after entering a town or outpost, the pet doesn't re-appear.

supaet · Sep 24, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

where you get the ranger hero....I beat the preview event...Only have 4 heroes, 2 monks, koss and a dervish...

Kelsey Cain · Sep 25, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01

About midway through, you get to choose one of two heroes that arrive from Cantha.

Quest starts at the docks, if memory serves.

Angel Develin · Sep 25, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

you can press on your hero's skills (control pannel) when you lead them into battle, so maybe you could say when and where the ranger has to trap.

Mr_T_bot · Sep 25, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by Kelsey Cain

It is possible to get your Ranger hero to charm a pet. Equip charm animal and use the hero control panel to activate the skill when you have a tameable creature targetted.

Don't know whether it's a bug or not, but after entering a town or outpost, the pet doesn't re-appear.

They said that heroes cannot charm pets on the website..

rezabm · Sep 25, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

They said that heroes cannot charm pets on the website..

They actually can and not only one...all these pink chickens belong to Mr. Koss

Nevin · Sep 25, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

You should've taken the other acolyte, turn it into a Nuker.

NeHoMaR · Sep 25, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32

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Originally Posted by Nevin

You should've taken the other acolyte, turn it into a Nuker.

I think I will play (myself) an ele in final version, so, I want the ranger. They must change ranger hero traps to touches or something like that, and she will go toe to toe to trap target.